Thursday, July 31, 2014

Looking Good

Just got back from my visit to the VA, nice trip. Was picked up at home by VA-DAV van and taken to the VA. The news was good at the VA and the stitches were removed and from the VA I was delivered back home. Never in my life did  I think that would be possible. Things are looking up. The bus situation will bother me less, I only feel sorry for the many that have to pay for the Rail Disaster in money and time.

"Social Dancing is contagious, help start an Island epidemic."

However, due to my deteriorating health, I must cut back and keep it slow. I cannot get around much anymore but I will monitor my stats daily. I will post the Stats for our entire blogosphere for the month of July. I will post the stats first day in the month in the Town Dancer blog, so that the most people will see the results. And if one of the blogs is eliminated, no one will question why, they will be able to see it plainly in the hits.

Meanwwhile, I will have to start looking up some information on line dancing and bring everybody up to date. Line dancing's current popularity grew out of the disco period, when the country-western dance and music communities continued to explore and develop this form of dancing.

Waianae Quote: No matter where you go, there you are!

Billy Ray Cyrus' 1992 hit Achy Breaky Heart, helped catapult western line dancing back into the musical mainstream's public consciousness. Then in 1998, the band Steps created further interest with the techno dance song "5,6,7,8". From there it has spread out to other types of dances and no one insists on wearing cowboy hats and boots.

Tuesday, July 29, 2014

Still Has Possibilties

We just have to face it, the hits are going down. For this blog they have gone to less that the twenty average per day which had been for well over that for months. But my health calls for a cutback and I may have to delete one of them soon. If the reader/dancers cannot share with their fellow dancers then we must accept.

"The pupil can only educate himself. Teachers are the custodians
of the apparatus upon which he himself must turn and twist to acquire
the excellencies that distinguish the better from the poorer of
God's vessels."  ~Martin H. Fischer 

I will post the monthly stats of our entire blogsphere at the end of every month in the Town Dancer blog. Everyone will be able to see the results and make up their own minds. At the end of August the reader/dancers will have pretty well decided the fate of the worst blog, which is only fair.

Things were looking good for Moanalua Corridor. Nothing spectacular, but solid as she goes even if we do not hear much from them. With renewed interest from Pearl City, Pearlridge and Aiea, it could catch up to Kapolei Social Dance. The two HBDA Chapters will do a lot for Kapolei. Add a Night Club and Dance Studio in the vicinity and the blog will be rolling.

Of course, it cannot do that without the Two Center and a Guest Author. It stands clear that Kapolei Social Dance is in the middle of the developing western dance environment. Kalealoa, Barber's Point and Honokai Hale will be the upcoming spots. A couple steady Two Centers and one Guest Author would send it to the clouds. And I am hoping one of these blogs will go independent one of these days.

Pub's Side Note: Check out Richie's blog in Town Dancer. That is not SOS. That is pertinent up to date information for the reader/dancers. Dat's da kine.

Sunday, July 27, 2014

The Change

Since my fall, things are changing a lot more drastically. I cannot cover the same ground that I covered before and even that was not enough. Now, I have been cutting back on everything and it shows in the hits. "Down." The total average hits per day on all the blogs dropped from about 330 to about 310, and this with Town Dancer doing so well.

"We should plan most of the time, but I guess it is all right
if sometimes we just wing it."

At the end of the month, I will post the list of our blogs and include the average hits per day for each blog. If and when anyone of them is eliminated, no one will question it. No hits, no use. And we can make the best use of what we have left.

"Sh-Boom, Life Could Be A Dream." by the Crew Cuts

The misunderstanding usually occurs when the possible Guest Authors think that they must be "gurus" and that they must make a commitment. But all that is necessary is that independent opinion. What I write is referred to in dance blogging circles as SOS (same old shit.) Anything else from anyone is not. Very simple. And you will see the results plainly in the monthly posting of our blog stats.

Down She Goes

"And Where She Stops, Nobody Knows."

In the last ten days since my fall the total hits on all the blogs have dropped from about 330 average hits per day to about 310. Even with Town Dancer holding up as well as they have. The total hits will go down even more for I am just not in condition to get the information needed.

"I may be guilty of giving people more chances than they deserve,
but usually when I am done, I am done."

Is dancing competitive? I guess we cannot get away from it. Anyone who is sceptical of this should go to anyone of the new studios in Honolulu. They have really come into prominence in the last few months in all the blogs. From my reading of the blogs it is all with good reason and they have become well known throughout the Islands.

Easy to get into the regular official competition coming soon. Talk about competition! People are trying to psych each other out on the dance floor, intentional contacts and screaming support from the audience. Tears, crying, cheers, laughter. The dance floor can be an emotional place.

It is not unusual for dancers to practice up to 15 hours a week and sometimes more. Some literally eat, drink and sleep dancing. Supplementing their dance practice with fitness and cross training to ensure they will be ready to compete. With the new Aloha Star Ball coming up it may be a new world out there. We will all be able to see which groups produce the most consistent winners in the International Style of Dance. Surprised? What do I know? That is the name of their game.

"The World Is Waiting For The Sunrise" by Les Paul and Mary Ford.

Anyway, there will be a list of our blog stats posted in Town Dancer on the last day of every month. If any one of the blogs is going to be deleted, everyone will be able to see the reason and no questions need be asked. Advertising? No, we do not have any advertising.

Everyone will also see that a blog such as Town Dancer merely provides the platform. Each Blogger has their own blog and is completely responsible for whatever goes in. Simple enough, and anyone can do this in any of the other blogs. For sure everyone would see it in the hits. Guaranteed.

Wednesday, July 23, 2014

For Whom The Bell Tolls

Most Authors from the last century Titled their Novels from something they liked from the Poets and it fits this novel by Ernest Hemingway like a glove. Perhaps some of you remember the movie starring Gary Gooper.

From John Donne, the poet:
"No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the Continent, a part of the main; if a Clod be washed away by the Sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a Promontory were, as well as if a Manor of thy friends or of thine own were; any mans death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee"

 "Vaya Con Dios" by Les Paul And Mary Ford.

With my physical capabilities diminishing so quickly, I may have may be a year to wind up this entire enchilada. I cannot walk and must use a Walker, I have Vertigo. Town Dancer had been destined to be first but no one want to attempt competing with Calvin and his team. We cannot blame them. So be it. Now at end of every month, I will post the blogs according to monthly hits. I would suggest taking the bottom ones, NO Competition. With two or three regular contributing Guest Authors, the hits would increase and everyone would know why.The entire dance group would benefit.

So I asked him.:
What is the difference between ignorance and apathy?

A: I don’t know, and I don’t care.

One more thing. When you were a child, you thought your parents were always right. Through high school and college, you thought your parents were always wrong. After college, you’ll realize that your parents were often right. And then, believe it or not, you’ll eventually become your parents. Wrap your young minds around that,

Sunday, July 20, 2014

Adjusting Themselves.

The blogs are doing very well by themselves. Not breaking records but they do convey information for the continued construction of these blogs. I need help, there is no doubt of that but for whoever wants to get  in, it is already up and running. Look what Calvin, Debra and Richard have done in Town Dancer. Just amazing!

"Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing."
~ William James

No commitment, we just provide the platform, and then they blog whenever and whatever they wish. Of course you may develop a commitment to your readers but that is strictly between you and them. Then gurus are not needed. We have plenty of those discoursing every day all over the internet. We need an honest opinion from anyone. Now that is the gold mine we are seeking. If that person can also share a few photos with their fellow dancers (strictly their opinion) we will have it made in the shade and we will have Social Media.

Pub's Side Note: We also offer any dance organization that does not have a Web site, a free Mini Web Site in our special Gadget Spot. A letter size poster will be fine.

Saturday, July 19, 2014

New Ground For Me

The ending of the old is a new era for me that is about to start. I have accepted the facts that my physical defects make it imperative the I stop social dancing. Put together with the difficulty developing for the users of Public Transportation clinches it.

And it all came about on Thursday at the VA, I took my blood test just fine, and went down the hall to my waiting module 4. But the results will take a while and I thought I would go to #2 module where they have more magazines. But then at the last minute I went out the door to see the area. Then turned to go down the walk and noticed the wet pavement but paid no attention. My fault.

At that time a got a little of my Vertigo and with the slippery pavement, I went town hitting very badly. Fortunately it happened at the VA. A couple soldiers helped me up and went with me back into the VA. We ended up waiting for my regular Doctor Laura Wong. The nurses were perfect in helping to clean the wounds, take my vitals and make me feel comfortable. Good for my mental outlook.

Doctor Wong came in and analyzed everything nicely and called in a specialist Dr. Cheng for the stitches. The entire procedure was a perfect way to describe this VA facility in Hawaii. I cannot complain. I keep thinking they are magicians but I must be in agreement with everyone else that they just know their business and they intend to help me. I couldn't ask for anything more.

I got this from another blog, so I will take the chance.

New Studio Grand Opening
Debbie Borges Barbosa
invites you to attend the Official Grand Opening Party of her new studio DREAM TO DANCE at 1070 North King Street, 2nd Floor, Honolulu (above the Palama Supermarket).

Monday July 21st from 6:30 pm to 9:30 pm. There is no charge. There is a parking lot and street parking. There will be Live Music for dancing featuring the Son Caribe, Friends, Food, Prizes and Lots of Fun. This beautiful new studio is well appointed, air conditioned, wooden floor, spacious and has a warm and friendly atmosphere.

Come and check it out and see for yourself.
Further information call (808) 372 5574

Of course, several years ago, I was taken to task for "publishing their personal emails" I asked where, when, what? And no answer. I deleted everything of theirs and informed them. They were upset and I never received anything again.

Than a few years back I wanted to help some on coming from Kauai and went through it again. This time I realized it was with malicious intent and forgot about asking anything. I dropped them like a hot potato. So please folks, I want to help but I can be stopped. Meanwhile I have much work ahead of me, I am running out of time and I must be on my way. Mahalo and Good Luck to all.

Wednesday, July 16, 2014

Fred Astaire

I have made contact with Fred Astaire Dance Studios on the Mainland along with Arthur Murray through my Twitter accounts and they have their hands full where they are at. I have almost deleted all of them, I am doing them no good and it is the same in the other direction. In fact I will concentrate on only Hawaiian Island Twitters. And I have more than one thousand that I am following in four Twitters. I will gradually prune this down to make it really social media.

"The mind is like a parachute, it doesn't work if it is not open."

West Oahu is developing into one of the wealthiest sections on these islands in spite of the Rail Catastrophe. Much interest in ballroom dancing has been aroused. Kapolei Chapter is now the largest chapter in HBDA. And there is a new one Ewa Chapter, HBDA in Ewa Beach and they will make it with our help maybe. And the only Dance Studio in Kapolei does not cover ballroom dancing at all.

"Here In My Heart" by Al Martino

The Oahu West Sector has two Dance Studios, Nix Performing Arts Center and Rosalie Woodson Dance Academy. Both catering to the young and in the performing or exhibition type dancing. With the Arthur Murray Dance Studios in the center of town and in the Windward side, it is more than natural if a new Fred Astaire studio were to be installed in the West Oahu somewhere away from the Rail Disaster.

 "We cannot hold a torch to light another's path,
without brightening our own."

Fred Astaire, born in 1899, began show business at the age of 5, performing on Broadway and in vaudeville with his sister, Adele. Then he headed to Hollywood where he began a successful partnership with Ginger Rogers for nine movies. By 1976, he had made 33 musical films with esteemed co-stars such as Joan Crawford, Rita Hayworth, Ann Miller, Debbie Reynolds and Cyd Charisse. He also co-starred with the biggest actors of that time, including Bing Crosby, Red Skelton, and Gene Kelly.

Fred Astaire died in 1987 from pneumonia. With his passing, we lost a true dancing legend. His effortless lightness and grace may never be seen again. Very few are aware that he invented "Rap" in the movie Second Chorus in 1937. As Mikhail Baryshnikov observed at the time of his death, "No dancer can watch Fred Astaire and not know that we all should have been in another business."

All the present Fred Astaire studios are in the Mainland USA.

Tuesday, July 15, 2014

The Flower Blooms Anew

Wow, I can pick up so much jazz from the Internet. Much of it I don't understand. I have always been a simple dancer with over eight decades of "experience." But I can see the basic groups and the over lapping of all, naturally.

"And the thing about Romantics is that we never give up."

The "street dancers" are becoming fewer and fewer. Dance lessons have become quite common and most people understand that they can learn to dance faster with lessons than just dancing on the floor. Sounds all right with me.

"Stranger In Paradise" by Tony Bennett

From the Internet:
Does dancing require skill?

Well, yes. Look at it this way you can get any member of the public and put them on a rugby field, volleyball court or baseball field and they can play the game. They will play badly compared to those who play regularly but at least they will be able to play a game.

You simply can not do the same for dancing. You can not pick somebody off the street and ask them to compete in say Quickstep or Jive. It is not a case of dancing badly. They simply would not be able to do this form of dancing on a regulation dance floor. Sounds all right with me.

But there is another very definite middle ground where most of us dance. We may have had some lessons and experience and we dance. Some of us may have even done group exhibitions in the social dance clubs. This group has slight differences in their dancing and is still in the process of redefining itself as the biggest group in all of Oahu. All the rest can be considered the Peripherals simply because we outnumber all of them put together.

"Young At Heart"
by Frank Sinatra

Then there is an analysis of dancing by University Researchers:

By using cutting-edge motion-capture technology, we have been able to precisely break down and analyse specific motion patterns in male dancing that seem to influence women’s perceptions of dance quality. We find that the variability and amplitude of movements in the central body regions (head, neck and trunk) and speed of the right knee movements are especially important in signalling dance quality. A ‘good’ dancer thus displays larger and more variable movements in relation to bending and twisting movements of their head.

This can probably be understood by International Dancers but it is beyond me. Mahalo.

Nice to know that I have the Stats down pretty pat. So that whoever is out there, I hope, is willing and able to contribute their 2 cents for the betterment of their friends, neighbors and fellow dancers. And let's keep on dancing.

Monday, July 14, 2014

Coming Up Good

Even though we are in a plateau and I have certainly over diluted the readership, the entire enchilada is doing good. I expect it to go higher this week, I am developing more confidence in my own stats. Together all my blogs add up to more than ten thousand hits per month. It definitely means that social media can be done blogging and I am connecting.

 "Don't lose faith. Sometime what looks like a terrible situation is
simply meant to put you in position to do good."

I am using Twitter, Facebook, Pinterest and Google Plus but only as promotion tools for the blogs. I am pretty certain I have uncovered the secret to the elementary hits at this stage. The Two Center with one photo of the dance gang, the location and the names. That guarantees an increase in hits, which of course is very basic but only the first phase. There are several other options available. This is the most important at the moment. Just one in each blog would make a tremendous difference.

"Morning Dew" by Melveen Leed

With Facebook, Snapshot, Flicker and a few other photo storage locations, getting almost one billion photos per day, it is a wonder that no one ever worries who will see their photos. You send one photo to us and everyone in our blogosphere will see it and very likely a few others. I can see it very graphically when Calvin and Debra blog. Wow, the hits go through the ceiling. Means that our friends, neighbors and fellow dancers are reading and our bloggers are not just beating their gums. So we must be patient and wait for those that will see the light.

Pub's Side Note: Is there a tendency to more social Saturday night dance activity in the Ward area? We get some information but perhaps they wish to keep it private. We must respect.

Sunday, July 13, 2014

Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics.

Oahu West is going down in hits. At one time right behind second place Blogging Hawaii. Now Kapolei Social Dance is taking over but I will admit I do not know for how long,. The dancers will make those decisions and I just have to go along with them.

"Never forget where you have been, never lose sight of where
you are going. And never take for granted the people
that travel the journey with you."

We have another problem in the "lies" from the Creative Researchers And Producers, some of which are reaching this far. While such a situation seems hopeless, there are actually things we can do when someone is telling lies about us. Calm yourself down. Going into hysterics will not help your case one bit. In fact, creating an uproar will only serve to fuel the gossip all the more.

Even if you can't control what other people might think, you can at least control how you react. Be calm and address the lies in a professional manner. When people ask you about it, tell them point blank that the rumor is not true. And you can try to live a nice life as an example of what we can all do, - help instead of hinder.  If they tell you that the liar is a duck, tell them to shut the duck up.

"How High The Moon" by Les Paul and Mary Ford

We must concentrate on getting enough Two Centers and Guest Authors in this blog so that with enough hits per day, I can resign as Administrator. From there we can phase my leaving, for only then will the blog be independent. You people will do a great job, believe me. Meanwhile we can let it ride steady as she goes. Don't forget the Goodies in every blog. Could be something in there for you.

Saturday, July 12, 2014

Two Centers

We are still not getting enough steady regular Two Centers or Guest Authors. If any of you are going by Mainland instructions I certainly don't blame anyone. Our people are not inclined to so much commitment.

"To embark on the journey towards your goals and dreams requires bravery. To remain on
that path requires courage. The bridge the merges the two is called commitment."

The first suggestion is, to Set Clear Guidelines. And we don't have any of that. I tried (in error) in the beginning but I know now that Two Centers and Guest Authors will offer to the reader/dancers their own unique opinions and something that is not SOS and they will publish whatever they damn well please and that is it. I accept and everyone else does too.

The second is, Set A Submission Deadline. Heh, heh. Our Two Centers and Guest Authors will contribute whenever and whatever they damn well please and everyone accepts. The Two Centers have a Guest Author to make the write ups and as Guest Authors wish to do it. But as Guest Author they can get in, publish, get out all on their own. In effect they have their own blog within a blog. A good example are Calvin, Debra and Rich. Simple? And a very good reason why Town Dancer is leading the pack, way out in front.

Third and fourth are Delegate and Schedule in bulk. We are completely out of that. In fact I am not sure what they mean. Forget it. The closest we get are when we have enough Information Contributors and the hits are over 200 average hits per day, the blog can go independent from me. Town Dancer is almost there.

Fifth is Communicate. And I hold back there, specially in the beginning because I want them to be as free and easy with their unique opinions as possible which will be refreshing after so much SOS. I don't believe they will require any specifics.

"MalagueƱa" by Placido Domingo

Sixth: Use editorial and group blog plugins. I don't even know what they are talking about. But there you have it. And without any of that crap, there are quite a few of you that would make terrific Two Centers. After you have done a little publishing, you can decide when you are ready to be a Guest Author, and do your own blogging, your decision.


This blog is moving pretty good and now firmly in double digit average per day territory. So it will soon be joining the others in the twenties. The same thing as the other blogs applies, that the Two Center will be the deciding factor.

"Stupid. knowing the truth, seeing the truth and still believing in the lies."

Then we are becoming more aware that there are not that many people available in our possible readers. Those that are computer literate enough to get in and out of all the items available in blogs. Then there is the very closely held "corporation" on Oahu, the Creative Researchers And Produdcers that actively hold back many that could benefit from Social Media.

 "Stood Up" by Ricky Nelson

Fortunately our group consists of social dancers interested in moving to the music of their choice. And I  am looking for them. Meanwhile we can hope to get a nice email from someone willing to contribute information and/or photos. There are many possibilities but at the moment not too many people know.

Pub's Side Note: And many are missing the goodies in all the blogs. Very few are aware.

Wednesday, July 9, 2014

What's happening?

Just six months ago, Oahu West was threatening to get into second place behind the famous Town Dancer. Now it has fallen quite a bit behind Kapolei Social Dance (2nd) and Blogging Hawaii (3rd) We don't get much news from this section so apparently they prefer to keep it private and we must respect. Meanwhile, is there anyone else?

"The light at the end of the tunnel is not an illusion. The tunnel is."

What do we do when someone is telling lies about us? Let's face it. We all know there are people in our dance environment who don't have anything else better to do, and get a kick out of ruining other people's lives. The famous Creative Researchers And Producers are well known on Oahu.

And some in this group had taken over entire Dance Clubs. But with new blood coming in with the new dance clubs, some of these clubs are slowly realizing that they are shrinking not expanding any more. And there will be other clubs where the dancers can be more comfortable and enjoy an evening of dancing. Most of us have seen it coming, there will be another new club before year's end.

So it doesn't mean you have to play the victim all the time. Our blogs are doing something, we are getting "other" views of the dance environment and out in public and looking good. Our existing Guest Authors are becoming more aware that their own blog is just that, "Their Own Blog." Check in on the latest by Richie Fun in the Town Dancer blog. Now that is getting the dance news to the dancers and the hits are going through the roof.

"Mi Buenos Aires Querido" por Placido Domingo.

When we get more Two Centers willing to share a photo and a few comments with their fellow dancers, we will see more differences in each blog. I can look forward to retiring from the best one when they are ready. Town Dancer? We shall have Social Media.

Tuesday, July 8, 2014

It Didn't Work

Went around and around with Huggo's On The Rocks on the Big Island. And they insisted on "to whom it may concern" type photos. And there was an email, but I couldn't make contact. Later on I receive a notice from a "Tayrn" and an email. I tried that too. "Undeliverable." So I deleted the whole works and maybe we can start anew some other time. Meanwhile, I hope they have a nice time.

“I must remember that when dealing with people, I am not dealing with
creatures of logic, but with creatures of emotion, creatures bristling
with prejudice, and motivated by pride and vanity”

Then because of all my ailments, I am retiring from much of my dancing. I may have a waltz now and then but it will be an effort. I am not in excruciating agony so it is not that bad. Then I have this gigantic puzzle of my own creation.

The blogs and everything else. In each blog I can do much more but I must find Two Centers and Guest Authors to make my work less time consuming. I look forward to the day when one of these blogs goes on its own.

"Sh-Boom, Life Could Be A Dream" by the Crew Cuts.

Along with everything else, the readership of these blogs is slowly defining itself. These blogs will not be for those that are Dancing With The Stars. The people that will be involved in our blogs are those that are mainly interested in enjoying the movement to music. No fancy stuff - that is for OP (other people.)

Sunday, July 6, 2014

Wow, Slow Down.

Surprising slow down for this blog in the first few days of July. Kapolei Social Dance has gone way out in front of this group, with about 40 average hits per day. Coming up right behind them is Blogging Hawaii with over 30 average hits per day. Lagging is Oahu West with average hits in the mid twenties. Will it change? It certainly will, but I don't know where or how.

"Your past does not dictate your future. If you have done things
in the past that you are ashamed of, let it go. They are there,
you are here. Now, make it nice for everyone around you."

Any way, the corridor from the Stadium to Pearl City is pretty well covered by Web sites and they are hauling in hits by the thousands. So we need any Dance Clubs or Night Clubs in Waikele, Waipio, Mililani and Wahiawa. And it is all up to you out there. You want, you get. You don't want, you don't get. Pretty simple isn't it?

Meanwhile the transparency photos are coming out pretty good and the photees have not objected.  Any one not sure what a transparent photo is? Laurie and Mike Chun in the above poster. Any body else? We all are receptive. We have a lot of good looking dancers out there. With the right photo I could make a nice transparency and any of us could use it in a color poster.  They are used in most posters of mine, with ready made transparencies of professionals, which are hard to find.

This blog coulda been a contendah!

It' A Beginning

And since we are not experts, we go by trial and error. I have been asking for a photo from Huggos On the Rocks on the Big Island but they seem to be very busy. I did get a Twitter with photo and a Twitter with Johnny Shot Band, that I could use. I downloaded all three because it looks like a collage but it could only be loaded separately. and then tried to Photoshop them to look good, and when I tried to make the collage they would fit, very difficult. They made some elongation to make them fit and I had to do the same. Takes a while to get it reasonable.

The Johnny Shot Band in action at Huggo's On The Rocks, Big Island.

But for a first time deal, it's all right. They are not sure of what a blog is. Does anyone? So we go slow. Hopefully in a month or so they can send us a photo of the gang and few comments (better introduction) to include in the blog. We are going to know each other in these Islands. But please make it a photo and comments for any one of our Blogs in Hawaii, not "to whom it may concern." We would like to be Social Media, which is just a little bit different. We are not Facebook.

I had too many Twitters, too many on Facebook, too many on Google+, so first I got rid of all Europe, Asia and Africa, even Australia. I am almost rid of all the Western Hemisphere. And I am amazed that I have so many in the Hawaiian Islands. Even Lanai and Molokai, which I guess I was just ignorant about it at first. But the blogs will be the Hawaiian Islands.

My blogs are still much alike but I am now sure that the difference is going be made largely by the Two Centers in the Neighbor Islands. The follow back on Twitter is progressing very nicely. And I have change the name on three of the Twitters to correspond with our blogs. There is a Dance Blogs Twitter, a Dance View Twitter and a Latin Rhythm Twitter. I am not sure how it will turn out. I do not know if anyone has ever done that. But I do know there are plenty out there who can tell you that it will never work. Who knows?